 xref talk abort 121471 alt atheism 54090 talk religion misc 84309 newsgroup talk abort alt atheism talk religion misc path edu!crabappl edu!bb3 andrew edu!new sei edu!ci ohio-state edu!pacif mp ohio-state edu!zaphod mp ohio-state edu!cs utexa edu!uunet!wri!elvi wri com!markp from markp elvi wri mark pundur subject re after 2000 year christian moral messag-id sender new wri nntp-post-host elvi wri organ wolfram research inc refer 1qg8bu kl5 fido asd sgi 1qgouk rln horu ap mchp sni 930415 112243 8v6 rusnew w165w manti uk date mon 19 apr 1993 14 43 46 gmt line 27 in 930415 112243 8v6 rusnew w165w manti uk mathew manti uk mathew write there's object physic einstein bohr told speak rel quantum mechan bullshit there's object realiti lsd suffici prove speak lsd bullshit on wonder peopl question understand term object consid fiction abstract ideal strive like ideal ga light inextens string exist talk thing wrong how strive ideal ideal object exist? -- mark pundur resembl opinion wolfram research inc pure coincident 