 newsgroup rec sport basebal path edu!crabappl edu!fs7 ec edu!europa eng gtefsd com!howland reston an net!usc!cs utexa edu!uunet!island!fester from fester island com mike fester subject re white black - racism philli messag-id 1993apr21 153355 3342 island com sender usenet island com the usenet mail target organ usr local rn organ refer 1qf1j9 b56 network ucsd 1993apr14 153335 2946 island com 1quonm 24c network ucsd distribut date wed 21 apr 1993 15 33 55 gmt line 135 in articl 1quonm 24c network ucsd king cogsci ucsd jonathan king write there's 's tast i've reach maximum depth thread i've cut thing affect sens discuss agre i'll delet well fester island com mike fester write king cogsci ucsd jonathan king write perhap citat player mention malinger? thank guess understand question impli accus glenn davi' maling plai still 'whisper' reach san francisco stronger also teammat make aspers in event player malign coupl year but case mike lavallier accus poor work habit gener sloth maling releas it's interest heard problem heard sander call thing well not heard call lazi given 2-sport phenomenon difficult label exactli which media detractor thing gener phenomenon writer find label stick matter find interest select label writer feel not fascin uh origin author's point black white player por- trai differ media highli select list prove case sander' eventu disput sander call lazi media hmm big ego club hous disturb is good press? no total extent press receiv pittsburgh call kind thing includ lazi spoil local columnist again actual shift time expedi lazi higher list non-white player subject opinion asid interest archiv studi player descript color barrier broken team red sox tradition white nowadai peopl carl yastrzemski blue-collar hard-work gui earli 70s portrai lazi bum realli hmm heard accus canseco lazi nor sierra i've heard accus canseco bad fielder great mind ignor actual dave stewart vocal in event lazi at poster week fire major screed canseco-is-lazi issu point best quibbl weaker uh poster state allow it not quibbl media portrai canseco lazi if person choos accus post quibbl and fact media tend plai time wieght room hardli lazi quibbl have mediot portrai canseco lazi ? unconcern field lazi bad fielder interest for matter canseco's color off-field antic lot nation attent roger clemen well at heard question surround select report have select report hypothesi potenti unfalsifi report polic privat investig well canseco involv feloni includ high-speed record carri conceal fire-arm cours domest violenc clemen run-in bar canseco well case coverag minim puckett? stewart? jackson? over-repres non-white three anecdot data point interest counter-argument btw--which jackson talk here? reggi bo darrin danni ? uh evid offer anecdot object counter anecdot? and won bat titl accus time care stat good team it kirbi puckett? never heard accus puckett heard bogg actual matter not live minnesota kirbi as bogg i'm bring obviou prototyp quot ted william rod carew uh agre asses bogg howev won bat titl accus selfish heard puckett pendleton similarli brett b william how daryl strawberri? and minu refer born type butler gaetti again make argument anecdot on hand argument becaus-jon-sai-so varieti data admit problem gener list non-white player famou religi polit belief name butler gaetti dravecki knepper hersheis al roll there perhap simpli outspoken case born-again type mention mike 